[ISHMap-List] Distinguishing between loose leaf maps from 1513 and 1520 Ptolemy

[Joel Kovarsky]

Although not singularly applicable to your Holy Land Map, it sounds like 
there can be watermark variation even within a single atlas issue: 
http://cool.conservation-us.org/coolaic/sg/bpg/annual/v30/bp30-01.pdf . 
Perhaps Chet van Duzer has some knowledge of this situation, given his 
remarks. The link I cite calls into question the presumption concerning 
utilization of a single source of paper.

            Joel Kovarsky

On 6/29/14, 2:10 PM, Ron Hekier wrote:
> Many thanks to those that approached me off the list.   I provide
> their responses below for the benefit of the group and future visitors
> to the mailing list.
>
> In my opinion the investigation of watermarks holds great promise for
> identifying maps from early atlases, presuming that the early atlases
> were printed in relatively low numbers and utilized only one source of
> paper.
>
> My copy of the Holy Land map reportedly from the 1513 atlas and not
> the 1520 atlas has a watermark that appears similar to a fleur-de-lis.
>
> An image of the watermark on my map can be found at
> http://i.imgur.com/KySYgPN.jpg
>
> On a related note, there are two other Ptolemy atlases for which loose
> leaf maps are difficult to distinguish.  Those of the 1482 and the
> 1486 atlases.
>
> On my Holy Land map purportedly from 1486, I find a watermark that
> appears to be a daisy.
>
>
> Below I append the helpful comments I received via email.
>
>
> Is the paper watermarked - that may give you a decision one way or the other
>
>
> Tom O'Loughlin
>
>
> --------------------
>
>
> With regard to your posting on ISHM regarding the 1513 and 1520
>
> Ptolemys, may I ask whether your map is hand-colored? If so, I may be
>
> able to shed some light on it, as I am engaged in a study of the
>
> coloring in hand-colored copies of the 1513 Ptolemy.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Chet Van Duzer
>
>
> --------------------
>
>
> Dear Ron Hekier,
>
>
> In Nordenskiöld´s collection there are only two maps of that edition
> in Doria database.
>
> We have the edition in the National Library of Finland.
>
>
> Here is the link of two leafs.
>
> https://oa.doria.fi/handle/10024/84457
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Anna-Maija Pietilä-Ventelä
>
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