Igazad van, összefoglalva: annak aki szemfüles, ugyis van, vagy szerez, a becsületes meg fizessen!:-)<div>MM<span></span><br><br>Verebélyi Zsolt <<a href="mailto:verebelyizsolt@globonet.hu">verebelyizsolt@globonet.hu</a>> ezt írta (2016. március 1., kedd):<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Sziasztok!<br>
    <br>
    Úgy 4-5 éve volt egy lehetőség a tájfutó Alapítványon keresztül
    venni dugókákat az akkori árak feléért a 18 éven aluliak számára,
    azon feltétellel, hogy ha kiöregedik vagy abbahagyja a versenyzést,
    akkor megörökli egy másik utánpótláskorú versenyző. <br>
    Nos mi helyzet ezen dugókákkal? Tudomásom szerint a Viktorhoz és a
    Sólyomhoz is került szép számmal. <br>
    Azon felül a versenyek rendezésénél, mivel a 14 éven alulinak
    ingyenes, állandóan keverés van a csereberékkel. Ha az archívumból
    kivett 14 év alatti versenyzők dugókája is sok esetben hibás, mert
    inkább a felnőtt használja, hogy ne keljen fizetni. Én ezen dolgok
    tudatában biztosan nem adom ingyen a dugókáimat, pedig van bőven. <br>
    <br>
    Üdv.Zsolt<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>2016.03.01. 17:53 keltezéssel, Kelemen
      János írta:<br>
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      és az 1827 rajtengedélyes versenyző közül 1184-nek van saját
      dugókája.<br>
      The end.<br>
      Janó<br>
      <br>
      <div>2016.03.01. 17:49 keltezéssel, Hites
        Viktor írta:<br>
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            <div>Így már beszédesebb és izgalmasabb adat.<img style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE:none;BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE:none;BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE:none;BORDER-LEFT-STYLE:none" alt="Mosolygó arc" src="cid:part1.02020602.08040207@globonet.hu"></div>
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                  <div><b>From:</b> <a title="kelemen.janos111@t-online.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelemen.janos111@t-online.hu');" target="_blank">Kelemen
                      János</a> </div>
                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 01, 2016 5:45 PM</div>
                  <div><b>To:</b> <a title="tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu</a>
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                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tajfutas] Dugóka bérlés</div>
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            <div style="FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">és a
              2642-ből 1457-nek nincs érvényes rajtengedélye.<br>
              Janó<br>
              <br>
              <div>2016.03.01. 17:35
                keltezéssel, Kelemen János írta:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">"Van arról valami kimutatás, hogy hány saját
                dugóka van forgalomban?"<br>
                Lásd. SI-archívum legenerálása Excel táblázat (MTFSZ
                oldal):<br>
                <a href="http://mtfsz.hu/megjelenites/si_archivum.php" target="_blank">http://mtfsz.hu/megjelenites/si_archivum.php

                </a><br>
                Rendezés a B oszlopra<br>
                2642 darab<br>
                Janó<br>
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                <div>2016.03.01. 17:17
                  keltezéssel, Hites Viktor írta:<br>
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                      <div>Sziasztok!</div>
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                      <div>Van arról valami kimutatás, hogy hány saját
                        dugóka van forgalomban? </div>
                      <div>Szerintem a stabil felnőtt tájfutóknál
                        meglehetősen alacsony a bérelt dugókák száma, a
                        fiataloknál ez még elég jelentős.</div>
                      <div>A terepfutóknál elég sok versenyt rendezünk
                        már SI-vel, náluk az arány bőven fordított,
                        leginkább csak a tájfutásból átruccanóknak van
                        saját, </div>
                      <div>de már volt nálunk is aki vett az MTFSZ-en
                        keresztül sajátot, és pont tegnap írt egy másik
                        futó, hogy érdekelné saját beszerzése.</div>
                      <div>Az viszont biztos, hogy segítene a saját
                        dugóka még szélesebb körű elterjedésében, és a
                        terepfutók körében a saját dugókák számának
                        növekedésében,</div>
                      <div>ha az MTFSZ megoldaná, hogy versenyeken is
                        rendszeresen árulja ezeket, akár úgy is, hogy a
                        tőkét a Szövetség teszi bele, az árusítást
                        kiadja, és az a kis árrés, </div>
                      <div>amit rá lehet tenni teljes egészében, vagy
                        nagyobb részben az árusítóé lenne, hogy a
                        költségeit fedezne, a kockázatot viszont így nem
                        kellene vállalnia.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>üdv. Viktor</div>
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                            <div><b>From:</b>
                              <a title="jankot@t-online.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jankot@t-online.hu');" target="_blank">JANKÓ, Tamás</a>
                            </div>
                            <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 01, 2016
                              3:01 PM</div>
                            <div><b>To:</b> <a title="c-sport@medex.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','c-sport@medex.hu');" target="_blank">'Guttmann Zoltán
                                - multiNavigátor'</a> </div>
                            <div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">'LISTA'</a> </div>
                            <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tajfutas] Dugóka
                              bérlés</div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Csatlakozom
                              Serdülőhöz, eddig minden valamire való
                              tájfutó boltban láttam eladó dugókát. Volt
                              olyan hely, ahol akciósan meglepően olcsón
                              (asszem 6-os típusút pár éve Velencében,
                              elég sok magyar is vett). Szerintem azért
                              jópár embert visszatarthat a vásárlástól a
                              macerás beszerzési lehetőség, vagy az
                              MTFSZ-t kell keresni, hogy éppen van-e
                              nekik (már persze aki tudja, hogy ott
                              szokott lenni), vagy a gyártóval
                              levelezgetni külföldiül (ráadásul nem is
                              szokták elkapkodni a válaszolást), meg
                              pénzt utalni külföldre, mert szerintem
                              kártyával még mindig nem lehet fizetni
                              náluk. Ennél valóban egyszerűbb versenyről
                              versenyre bérelgetni, hadd szívjon inkább
                              a rendező vele. Lehet, ha a jelentkezésnél
                              rá tudnánk mutatni egy sátorra, hogy ott
                              lehet megvenni akár a legújabb típusokat
                              is, esetleg többen szánnák rá magukat a
                              vásárlásra...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Ami a higiéniát
                              illeti, szívesen megengedném Zolinak, hogy
                              beleszagoljon így Boróka Kupa után a
                              bérelt dugókás dobozba :) Pedig még hőség
                              sem volt. Én évente 2-3-szor ki szoktam
                              mosni őket, akkor, amikor már én sem
                              merném kinyitni a dobozokat :) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">2-3 évente meg a
                              szalagokat is cserélni kell rajtuk, mert a
                              különböző méretű ujjakra való beállítás
                              közben rendesen megtépdesik a gumit.
                              Úgyhogy én nagyon örülnék, ha a
                              jelenleginél sokkal jobban elterjedne a
                              saját dugókák használata.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">T<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="HU">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="HU"> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>
                              [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">mailto:tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erdélyi Tibor<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 01, 2016 2:32
                              PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Guttmann Zoltán -
                              multiNavigátor<br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> LISTA<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tajfutas] Dugóka
                              bérlés<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">1. Reméljük a külföldi
                              tájfutóversenyen megjelenő kereskedők nem
                              olvassák az eszmefuttatásodat, mert eddig
                              mindegyik árult dugókát is, most csak a
                              legközelebbit linkelem be: OLShop, Bécs: <a href="http://ol-shop.at/timekeeping/sportident-cards" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://ol-shop.at/timekeeping/sportident-cards" target="_blank">http://ol-shop.at/timekeeping/sportident-cards</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">2. nem mondhatnám,
                                hogy higiénikus a bérelt dugóka
                                használata, szagold meg egyszer akár a
                                saját dugókád ujjadon lévő pántját, ami
                                bőven kap az izzadtságból. Kíváncsi
                                lennék, az MTFSz kb 10 éves dugóka
                                állományának pántjai voltak-e valaha
                                kimosva.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">2016. március 1.
                                14:00 Guttmann Zoltán - multiNavigátor
                                írta, <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','c-sport@medex.hu');" target="_blank">c-sport@medex.hu</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Szia
                                      Tomi, </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">éves
                                      szinten az eladható dugókák
                                      mennyisége hagyományos
                                      kereskedelmi vonalon csekély,
                                      mivel itthonról mindenki a
                                      szövetségen keresztül vagy
                                      közvetlen a gyártótól egyesületi
                                      szinten képes beszerezni a
                                      dugókákat. Továbbá én mint
                                      kereskedő szinte azonos áron kapom
                                      a dugókát mint  az egyesület aki
                                      ír a SI-nek, hogy szeretne
                                      vásásrolni. Továbbá a dugóka
                                      romlandó dolog mert időnként
                                      elavul és akkor már mindenki az
                                      újat akarja mint a mobiltelefonnál
                                      ( és mivel nincs a kockázat
                                      semmilyen prémiummal megfizetve a
                                      struktúra vagy eladom beker áron
                                      vagy alacsonyabban valljuk be nem
                                      annyira csábító). Nekem szokott
                                      lenni néha de csak azért, ha tíz
                                      versenyenként valaki megtalál
                                      teljesen külsősként vagy éppen úgy
                                      érzi újat akar venni akkor tudjak
                                      neki adni. Aki otthon felejti a
                                      dugókát annak olcsóbb bérelni
                                      egyet a rendezőktől az adott
                                      versenyre. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">A
                                      fejlesztő/gyártó nem kereskedő és
                                      nem is akar klasszikus kereskedést
                                      folytatni vele ezen szűk szegmensű
                                      piacon. Amíg nem jön egy konkurens
                                      akinek a rendszere sokkal több
                                      sportrendezvényen használható, és
                                      az árai azért jobbal mert a
                                      fejlesztési és gyártási költségei
                                      jobbak majd ráépít egy
                                      kereskedelmi rendszert ahol vannak
                                      további szereplők akinek megéri
                                      tartani pénzt beletenni a
                                      szükséges árukészletbe akkor
                                      változhat valami. Amíg a mostani
                                      struktúra marad, addig a
                                      versenyzőknek marad az egyesületi
                                      beszerzés közvetlen a gyártótól
                                      vagy a szövetségtől. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">és még
                                      valami: cipőt, bugyit, barátnőt,
                                      fogkefét, kotont, nem szoktak
                                      bérelni kölcsön kérni/adni/kapni.
                                      mert az olyan intim, a dugóka nem
                                      az. Ahhoz nem kötődik az ember
                                      annyira, az egy szükséges   valami
                                      ami  nélkül nincs tájfutó verseny
                                      de  könnyen és higiénikusan és
                                      mindenféle akármilyen hátrány
                                      nélkül  hozzá lehet jutni és
                                      használni. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Üdv Zoli</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Guttmann
                                      Zoltán </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"><a href="http://www.multinavigator.hu/" target="_blank">multiNavigator.hu</a>
                                    </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="HU">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="HU"> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>
                                          [mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>]
                                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>JANKÓ,
                                          Tamás<br>
                                          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 1,
                                          2016 11:40 AM<br>
                                          <b>To:</b> 'fehérfecó (ztc)'
                                          <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zala.ztc@zalaszam.hu');" target="_blank">zala.ztc@zalaszam.hu</a>><br>
                                          <b>Cc:</b> 'LISTA' <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu</a>></span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                              [Tajfutas] Dugóka bérlés<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Mondjuk

                                          nem értem, hogy a dugókát
                                          miért mindenki bérelni akarja.
                                          Futócipőt, meg tájolót sem
                                          akar senki bérelni egy
                                          versenyre. A dugóka ugyanolyan
                                          sporteszköz tájfutáshoz, mind
                                          az előbb említettek. Aki
                                          tájfutó versenyen szeretne
                                          indulni, az ruházzon be ebbe
                                          is (ráadásul már terepfutó
                                          versenyeken is sok helyen
                                          lehet használni). A kezdő
                                          modell nem kerül egy
                                          horrorisztikus összegbe. Max a
                                          nyílt kezdő és 10D
                                          kategóriákban lehet indokolt a
                                          bérlés, a többiben indulók
                                          nyugodtam vásárolhatnak
                                          maguknak. Esetleg meg kellene
                                          fontolni a tájfutó
                                          felszerelést árusítóknak, hogy
                                          a dugókát is felvegyék az
                                          arukészletükbe, és a versenyek
                                          helyszínén is árusítsák.
                                          Ezáltal sok macerát le lehetne
                                          venni a rendezők válláról.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">T</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="HU">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="HU"> fehérfecó (ztc)
                                              [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zala.ztc@zalaszam.hu');" target="_blank">mailto:zala.ztc@zalaszam.hu</a>]
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
                                              March 01, 2016 11:27 AM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> JANKÓ, Tamás;
                                              'miklos mets'<br>
                                              <b>Cc:</b> 'LISTA'<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                              [Tajfutas] Dugóka bérlés</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Sziasztok!</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Mostanában

                                                elharapódzott, hogy a SI
                                                készlettel és sok
                                                dugókával rendelkező
                                                egyesület(ek?) inkább
                                                bérbe adja(k) dugóka
                                                készletüket egy mezei
                                                futó vagy bármilyen
                                                eseményre, így nem
                                                tudnak a saját
                                                klubtagjaiknak dugókát
                                                adni a tájfutó versenyen
                                                való elinduláshoz (ami
                                                elég ciki). Ez a kisebb
                                                SI készlettel rendelkező
                                                egyesület szervezői
                                                munkáját megnehezíti,
                                                hiszen ezeknek az
                                                egyesületeknek kell
                                                biztosítani a készletet.
                                                De ez szervezés, idő és
                                                plusz pénz (mert hogy le
                                                kell hozni, vissza kell
                                                küldeni). </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Amúgy

                                                meg a MTFSZ saját
                                                készletére (amit többek
                                                között a versenyek után
                                                befizetett 18%-okból
                                                vásárolt) természetesen
                                                adhat kedvezményt az
                                                utánpótlást támogatva,
                                                de a saját készlettel
                                                rendelkezőnek miért
                                                kellene adnia? Igen, ezt
                                                döntse el maga a készlet
                                                tulajdonosa. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Ha

                                                az MTFSZ ezt
                                                szabályozza, akkor kérem
                                                azt is szabályozni, hogy
                                                a klubok a nevezéskor
                                                leadott számoknak
                                                megfelelően legyen
                                                kiosztva a dugóka a
                                                versenyzők között. Ha ez
                                                nem sikerül akkor
                                                lehessen szankcionálni.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Amúgy

                                                meg a kiírás döntő, az
                                                entry “csak” egy nevező
                                                rendszer. Tájékoztató
                                                jellegű a fizetési
                                                kötelezettség benne.
                                                Fizetni azt kell amit a
                                                rendező kiszámláz.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">üdv</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Fehér

                                                Ferenc</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> <a title="jankot@t-online.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jankot@t-online.hu');" target="_blank">JANKÓ,

                                                        Tamás</a> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Sent:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">
                                                      Tuesday, March 01,
                                                      2016 9:55 AM</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">To:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> <a title="miklos.mets@gmail.com" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','miklos.mets@gmail.com');" target="_blank">'miklos

                                                        mets'</a> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Cc:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> <a title="tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">'LISTA'</a>
                                                    </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                                </div>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Subject:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> Re:
                                                      [Tajfutas] Dugóka
                                                      bérlés</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Ha az MTFSZ
                                                akar adni ingyen dugókat
                                                a 14 éven alattiaknak,
                                                akkor azt nyugodtan
                                                megteheti. Ha a rendező
                                                nem az MTFSz készletét
                                                használja, akkor a 14
                                                éven aluliak pl. az
                                                MTFSZ-től hozhatnának el
                                                ingyen dugókákat. Így
                                                nem terhelve vele a
                                                rendezőket.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">Üdv</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d" lang="HU">T</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">
                                                <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>
                                                [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu');" target="_blank">mailto:tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>]
                                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>miklos

                                                mets<br>
                                                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
                                                March 01, 2016 9:34 AM<br>
                                                <b>To:</b> Marosffy
                                                Dániel<br>
                                                <b>Cc:</b> LISTA<br>
                                                <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                                [Tajfutas] Dugóka bérlés</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU">Ez
                                                akkor is rendezendő</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU">Nem lehet
                                                  rendező függő, hogy
                                                  kell e a 14 év
                                                  alattiaknak fizetnie</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU">MM<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Marosffy Dániel <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Marosffy@interface.hu');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Marosffy@interface.hu');" target="_blank">Marosffy@interface.hu</a>>

                                                  ezt írta (2016.
                                                  március 1., kedd):</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                <div>
                                                  <p style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Az Entry
                                                      nem írja oda ezt
                                                      minden versenyhez,
                                                      hanem beállítás
                                                      kérdése, de mivel
                                                      az esetek nagyobb
                                                      részében ingyenes
                                                      14 év alatt a
                                                      bérlet, így ez az
                                                      alapértelmezett.
                                                      Simán
                                                      kikapcsolható,
                                                      vannak rendezők,
                                                      akik kifejezetten
                                                      kérik ezt, mert
                                                      saját készlettel
                                                      dolgoznak.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                                  <p style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                                  <p style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">D.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt;BACKGROUND:white"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Feladó:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> <a></a><a>javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu')</a>;
                                                          <a></a><a>javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tajfutas-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu')</a>;,

                                                          meghatalmazó:
                                                          gocsejktfe . <a></a><a>javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gocsejktfe@gmail.com')</a>;<br>
                                                          <b>Elküldve:</b>
                                                          2016. március
                                                          1. 8:21<br>
                                                          <b>Címzett:</b>
                                                          LISTA; Magyar
                                                          Tájékozódási
                                                          Futó Szövetség<br>
                                                          <b>Tárgy:</b>
                                                          [Tajfutas]
                                                          Dugóka bérlés</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Sziasztok!</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Mostanában

                                                          elharapózott,
                                                          hogy néhány SI
                                                          rendszer
                                                          tulajdonos nem
                                                          ad ingyenesen
                                                          bérelt dugókát
                                                          a 14 év alatti
                                                          versenyzőknek.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Természetesen

                                                          ezt
                                                          megtehetik.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Azonban

                                                          az Entry
                                                          minden
                                                          versenyhez azt
                                                          írja, hogy</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">"(14
                                                          év alatti
                                                          kategóriák
                                                          magyar
                                                          versenyzőinek
                                                          az SI-bérlet
                                                          az MTFSZ
                                                          döntése
                                                          értelmében
                                                          ingyenes.)"</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Ezt
                                                          az
                                                          ellentmondást
                                                          meg kellene
                                                          szerintem
                                                          szüntetni.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Vagy
                                                          dönt az MTFSZ,
                                                          hogy minden
                                                          eseményen
                                                          tényleg
                                                          ingyenes a
                                                          fiataloknak.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU">Vagy
                                                          az Entry
                                                          figyel minden
                                                          versenynél.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="COLOR:black" lang="HU"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:white"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black" lang="HU"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br>A Gmail mobilalkalmazásból elküldve<br>