<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Antony,</div><div><br></div><div>are you consolidating the comments into 2 papers? If so, I prefer to wait for the consolidated draft and contribute there (I'm also a bit behind with other things ;-).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Another option would be Journal of Spatial Science - SDI and its aspects are a welcome topic there.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Ivana<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:33 AM Antony Cooper <<a href="mailto:ACooper@csir.co.za">ACooper@csir.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Commission members<br>
<br>
Thank you all very much for your responses, which I have seen from Jan,<br>
Stefan, Petr, Adam, Joep, Tatiana and Ivana. Anyone else? It is not<br>
too late to contribute.<br>
<br>
Firstly, thank you very much, Petr, for converting the text into MS<br>
Word. If any of you have further comments or inputs to make, you can<br>
mark them up in this version. In the interim, I will try to consolidate<br>
all your comments into a new version, but I am a bit behind with things<br>
...<br>
<br>
Secondly, which journal should we target? An obvious choice is IJGIS,<br>
as our SDI model papers were published there. Alternatives are the<br>
journals connected with the ICA: International Journal of Cartography<br>
(IJC), The Cartographic Journal, Cartographica and Cartography and<br>
Geographic Information Science (CaGIS). It is preferable now-a-days to<br>
publish open access, but unfortunately, all of these are closed journals<br>
and I do not have the funds to pay for APCs. Do any of you? :-)<br>
<br>
Of these, all but IJC are on the ISI list of accredited journals, for<br>
whom this is important (such as me).<br>
<br>
As I mentioned in Tokyo, there is also the South African Journal of<br>
Geomatics, which is open access and which charges no APCs because it is<br>
fully funded by the profits South Africa made off hosting the ICC in<br>
2003. So, it does have an ICA connection, but it is not on an ISI<br>
list.<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
Antony<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> On 24 September 2019 at 09:06, in message<br>
<<a href="mailto:0870a840d96548d88f436e1d16eaee74@sdfe.dk" target="_blank">0870a840d96548d88f436e1d16eaee74@sdfe.dk</a>>, Jan Hjelmager<br>
<<a href="mailto:jnh@sdfe.dk" target="_blank">jnh@sdfe.dk</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
> Hi Antony<br>
> First sorry for my slow response.<br>
> <br>
> It look good. However, I have one question. Will the model change<br>
with the <br>
> emergence of IoT and SmartCity? - It will at least bring a new type<br>
of dynamic <br>
> into an SDI.<br>
> <br>
> Best regards<br>
> Jan<br>
> <br>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----<br>
> Fra: Antony Cooper <<a href="mailto:ACooper@csir.co.za" target="_blank">ACooper@csir.co.za</a>> <br>
> Sendt: 10. september 2019 11:23<br>
> Til: Serena Coetzee <<a href="mailto:serenacoetzee@gmail.com" target="_blank">serenacoetzee@gmail.com</a>>; <br>
> <a href="mailto:Ica-sdistandards@lazarus.elte.hu" target="_blank">Ica-sdistandards@lazarus.elte.hu</a>; Jan Hjelmager <<a href="mailto:jnh@sdfe.dk" target="_blank">jnh@sdfe.dk</a>><br>
> Emne: Re: SV: [Ica-sdistandards] Contribute to a paper about the ICA<br>
model of <br>
> stakeholders in an SDI?<br>
> <br>
> Dear Jan<br>
> <br>
> The answer to both is as soon as possible, but that is probably not<br>
a<br>
> very useful answer!<br>
> <br>
> It is unlikely that we will be able to get the review paper<br>
published<br>
> in a decent journal in 2019, but I want to have submitted the paper<br>
by<br>
> the beginning of December 2019. This should be possible, because<br>
the<br>
> paper is largely finished - particularly if we go for option (1). <br>
> Option (2) might be more appealing to the relevant editors, though.<br>
> <br>
> The paper was written in LaTeX using the ICC 2019 template, so it<br>
will<br>
> have to be reformatted for the journal we select, and it might need<br>
to<br>
> be converted to MS Word. If any of you are fluent in LaTeX I can<br>
send<br>
> the source file to you, but it will be sufficient to send me your<br>
> comments marked up on the PDF, or as notes in an email. I am quite<br>
> happy to incorporate any comments or suggestions you might have into<br>
the<br>
> text myself.<br>
> <br>
> For the moment, please try to send me your inputs by Monday 30<br>
> September 2019, so that I can include them in the next version.<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> Antony<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>>>> On 09 September 2019 at 23:57, in message<br>
> <<a href="mailto:833918554cff419db284f6b3b86182a5@sdfe.dk" target="_blank">833918554cff419db284f6b3b86182a5@sdfe.dk</a>>, Jan Hjelmager<br>
> <<a href="mailto:jnh@sdfe.dk" target="_blank">jnh@sdfe.dk</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>> Hi Serena and Antony<br>
>> I have two question. What is the timeline for producing the paper,<br>
> and when <br>
>> do you need a reply as to if one can contribute?<br>
>> <br>
>> Best regards<br>
>> Jan<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Jan Hjelmager<br>
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>> Fra: ICA-SDIStandards <<a href="mailto:ica-sdistandards-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu" target="_blank">ica-sdistandards-bounces@lazarus.elte.hu</a>> På<br>
> vegne af <br>
>> Serena Coetzee<br>
>> Sendt: 9. september 2019 20:11<br>
>> Til: <a href="mailto:Ica-sdistandards@lazarus.elte.hu" target="_blank">Ica-sdistandards@lazarus.elte.hu</a> <br>
>> Emne: [Ica-sdistandards] Contribute to a paper about the ICA model<br>
of<br>
> <br>
>> stakeholders in an SDI?<br>
>> <br>
>> Dear Commission members,<br>
>> <br>
>> Antony Cooper, a former Chair of our Commission on SDI & Standards,<br>
> would <br>
>> like to invite Commission members to contribute to a paper about<br>
the<br>
> ICA <br>
>> model of stakeholders in a spatial data infrastructure (SDI). The<br>
> idea is <br>
>> that this will be a paper from our Commission, so any of you are<br>
> welcome to <br>
>> contribute.<br>
>> <br>
>> Attached is the latest version of a paper provisionally entitled "A<br>
> review <br>
>> of the ICA model of stakeholders in a spatial data infrastructure<br>
> (SDI)". A <br>
>> preliminary version of this paper was presented at ICC 2019,<br>
entitled<br>
> <br>
>> "Expanding the ICA model of stakeholders in a spatial data<br>
> infrastructure <br>
>> (SDI) ". For the abstract of that presentation, see: <br>
>> <a href="https://www.abstr-int-cartogr-assoc.net/1/49/2019/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.abstr-int-cartogr-assoc.net/1/49/2019/</a>. The list of<br>
> authors for <br>
>> the ICC 2019 abstract is all those who worked on the model during<br>
the<br>
> <br>
>> Commission meeting in Dresden, August 2013.<br>
>> <br>
>> The attached paper is primarily a review of the literature that<br>
used<br>
> the <br>
>> Commission's SDI models and a consolidation of the suggested<br>
> improvements to <br>
>> the SDI stakeholder model. This paper also includes a figure<br>
showing<br>
> all the <br>
>> 45 types and subtypes of a stakeholder in an SDI that were included<br>
> in the <br>
>> Commission's paper at ICC 2011 in Paris (a separate, larger copy of<br>
> the <br>
>> figures is also attached). This attached paper also includes a<br>
table<br>
> from <br>
>> the 2008 IJGIS paper (that might or might not have any relevance)<br>
and<br>
> the <br>
>> expanded SDI stakeholder model from the Dresden meeting, which is<br>
> clearly <br>
>> incomplete.<br>
>> <br>
>> Going forward, there are the following options:<br>
>> <br>
>> (1) Complete this paper as a review paper, with Section 4. "Summary<br>
> of the <br>
>> suggested changes to the model" being an overview of the suggested<br>
> changes. <br>
>> The two tables will then be omitted.<br>
>> <br>
>> (2) Complete this paper as a review paper, with Section 4. "Summary<br>
> of the <br>
>> suggested changes to the model" being a consolidation of all the<br>
> suggestions, <br>
>> producing an update of the figure of the SDI stakeholders. Again,<br>
> the two <br>
>> tables will then be omitted.<br>
>> <br>
>> (3) Split this paper into two papers, one being the review and the<br>
> other <br>
>> being the new SDI stakeholder model, incorporating all the<br>
suggested<br>
> <br>
>> improvements, completing Table 2: Expanded SDI stakeholder model<br>
(the<br>
> Dresden <br>
>> results) and producing an update of the figure of the SDI<br>
> stakeholders. This <br>
>> second paper will take a lot more effort.<br>
>> <br>
>> If you would like to contribute to one of these papers (and hence<br>
be<br>
> a <br>
>> co-author), please contact Antony Cooper <br>
>> <a href="mailto:acooper@csir.co.za" target="_blank">acooper@csir.co.za</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:acooper@csir.co.za" target="_blank">acooper@csir.co.za</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Serena<br>
>> <br>
>> Serena Coetzee (GPr GISc 1245)<br>
>> University of Pretoria<br>
>> Professor and Head of Department Geography, Geoinformatics and<br>
> Meteorology<br>
>> Geography Building 1-3.7, Hatfield Campus, Lynnwood Road, Hatfield,<br>
> 0083, <br>
>> South Africa<br>
>> email: <a href="mailto:serena.coetzee@up.ac.za" target="_blank">serena.coetzee@up.ac.za</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:serena.coetzee@up.ac.za" target="_blank">serena.coetzee@up.ac.za</a>> ·<br>
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