Absent because of other obligations:
Université de la Sorbonne Nouvelle (Paris III): Prof. Dr. Xavier Richet
Collegium Hungaricum - Haus Ungarn Berlin: Prof. Dr. András Masát

1. Welcome

Mr. Halmesvirta and Mr. Kuukka welcome the members of the project “Multimedial History of Hungary and Finland on CD-ROM” and introduce their colleagues from Jyväskylä. Mr. Fischer expresses his gratitude about the preparatory measures, that lead to the expectation of a successful meeting. After that Mr. Gradvohl introduced himself, who couldn’t take part at the former meetings.

2. Developments since the meeting in Budapest from 26./27.4.2001

Four developments mainly took place since the meeting of Budapest:
a) At the 19th/20th of May 2001, Mr. Gradvohl visited Hamburg and was briefed by Mr. Fischer about the details in connection with the project’s organisation and the structural composition of the CD-ROM, developed in Hamburg and Budapest. Mr. Gradvohl will write the chapters about Hungary’s history in the Interwar-period and after 1989.
b) On 11th of June 2001, the official alteration of the contract, which includes extension of the project’s duration until 31th december 2001, arrived. All members receive a copy of the document.
c) According to decision 2/13, an order was given to the Fraunhofer-Institute for Graphic Data Processing in Rostock and to Mr. Timo Sirviö in Jyväskylä to develop a design of the multimedial design, based upon the structural composition, decided in Budapest. Because of the delayed completion of both design outlines, it was only partially possible to complete the prototypical chapter.
d) The hungarian colleagues from the department of cartography have completed a sample of the basic maps and sent it to all members of the project. These maps are to be discussed at a later time at the meeting

3. Presentation of both design outlines

It was planed for both design outlines to be completed until the end of May, so that the prototypical chapter (History of Hungary and Finland from 1945 to 1956) could be worked into both designs. Based on this, a fair comparison and an objective decision would have taken place. Because of the already mentioned delayed completion of the design outlines, the integration of the prototypical chapter was only possible into the the Fraunhofer-Institute>s design outline - and even here only partial.

a) Design outline of Timo Sirviö
First, Timo Sirviö presents his outline. The design basically assumes the development of a continous horizontal chronology. Parallel to this, four additional chronological strings exist, which treat Finland’s political, cultural, social and economic history, and four corresponding chronologies about hungarian history. The links are built into the 1 + 4 + 4 strings as small icons of text and multimedia at the chronological correct points. During the discussion, the following topics were discussed and critizised:

• At first glance, the design digresses considerably from the structural composition, decided at meeting in Budapest.
• The history should not be divided into four areas (policy, culture, society, economy)
• The chronological string suggests a clear beginning and clear ending of historical processes and makes a description of longer lasting processes more difficult.
• It is unclear, how the common or comparative aspects of finnish and hungarian history are to be portrayed.
• The design does not include ideas about the covers of the individual periods and about the startpages at the beginning of the CD-ROM.

b) Design outline, developed by the Fraunhofer-Institute for Graphical Data Processing Rostock Mr. Pápay presents the outline from Rostock by comparing it to the various levels/pages from the structural compostion developed in Budapest. It is clear that the design is strongly oriented towards the structural measures. During the discussion, the following topics were discussed and critizised:

• The navigation through the design seems too complex, as the screen includes too many buttons und not enough space for the main presentation.
• The requirement regarding the quality of the pictures seems too high.
• The portrayal of the comparative aspects is not marked clear enough.

c) Discussion about both design outlines
The following intensive and in many areas controversal discussion about both outlines and the corresponding structural conceptions shows the following:

• The finnish colleagues obviously did not comprehend in all details the decisions made in Hamburg and Budapest and thus developed the design into another direction.
• The finish concept is based more or less only on the comparative aspects along the chronological string, while the individual, national aspects of history are neglected.
• Even in regards to the timing of the project, there can’t be a deviation from the decided composition, because otherwise not only the comparative aspects and areas but, based on this, the texts would also have to redeveloped from scratch as well as the design.
• In the design from Rostock, the comparative aspects are to gain more importance. This has to happen to the corresponding introductionary chapters and the current texts of the various periods on one hand and on the other by emphasizing the importance of the comparative aspects in the introductionary text of the startpage of the CD-ROM, as well as directly connecting these points to the texts and presentations in the individual periods.
• It should be technical possible for the user to confine himself to reading the comparative aspects only.

Based on this discussion, Timo Sirviö presents a modified outline of his design (compare to enclosure 1). After further discussion, the following decisions are agreed to by all:

Decision 3/1:
The design outline from the Fraunhofer-Institute for Graphical Data Processing Rostock is accepted. Mr. Pápay is asked to inform the institute about the faults and shortcomings, that have become appearent during the discussions, so that proper modifications can be made.

Decision 3/2:
In the introductionary chapters of each period, the comparative aspects should be weighted more heavily. This should be done using Timo Sirviö’s modified design as a model.

Decision 3/3: Timo Sirviö is asked to place his modified design at disposal, for payment of a fee. Decision 3/4:
The comparative aspects in the texts of a period / chapter are to be connected directly to the comparatice introductionary chapter (compare to enclosure 2).

4. Maps

Mr. Zentai presents some of the planed maps, that were completed meanwhile in Budapest. Based on the various alternatives, it is decided which clipings and which scales are chosen:

• The maps about the geographical location of the country are to be restricted to the actual region, which means, that the map of Finland is to include the whole area of the Baltic Sea and the map of Hungary should range to the coast of the Adriatic Sea.
• Because of didactic reasosons, the basic maps of the various periods shold be in the same scale.
• If need arises, the basic map showing the european relations of a period can consist of various maps which show the status at different points in chronology.
• It is consent, that the following suggestions of Mr. Gradvohl are added, as they correspond to the already mentioned intentions:
• Special attention should be payed to the basic map or maps of each period, in regards to european relations and contexts.
• The maps about the medieval period should take into account, that during that time the borders between empires were not clearly defined.
• Regarding ethnic maps, the ethnic consistence of towns and cities should be taken into account.

5. Copyright and fees

Basically, the discussion of Budapest was repeated. Regarding the high fees that are charged in Finland by the museums and archives for copies of photos and after that, additionally for the adoption into the CD-ROM, caution is advised regarding the gathering of such material. Probably, already published photos in older publications should be taken, where clearly no copyright oriented problems exist. The financial aspect is even more true about movieclips.

6. Various

At the conclusion, various minor details are discussed, which nonetheless are of great pratical importance to the CD-ROM:

• Each author is encouraged to intensify using infographics
• It doesn’t seem appropriate to dogmatically assign a fixed number of multimedial elements to each period.
• Because of financial reasons, the contracts of translation should not be given to professional translators but to students. The translations should then be given to translators or competent native speakers for lecturing.
• The authors are asked to continiously send their materials to the appropriate persons or institutes for translation and technical processing.
• The finish texts of the encyclopedia should also be sent continously to Hamburg for continual translation.
• It is consent to first complete the chapter about the history of Hungary and Finland from 1945 to 1989 as a prototypical pattern, so that the experiences made can be given to the other authors. The deadline is end of August / beginning of September. Potentially, another meeting may be unavoidable.
• Mr. Fischer urgently points out, that all decisions and points of discussion of the meetings (Hamburg, Budapest, Jyväskylä) are listed in the protocols, and begs all members of the project to pay attention to the protocols.